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Originally posted by miked1978:
Not me. Your asking the player to forfeit a few million from their contract bc the weather? especially when most of these players spend their offseasons away from the state they play in?
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by tankle104:
https://overthecap.com/author/jason
everyone needs to read this article so we can all truly understand the financial side of this situation. Niners aren't far off from his value but a lot of these WR contracts are bloated.
it's a really informative read.
AB81 is the man. Here is the critical paragraph in AB writes - my opinion. And why I think the 49ers and Aiyuk are close, and that he'll most likely sign. we shall see.
When we look at Brandon Aiyuk he fits in the middle of the numbers. He has averaged 71.4 yards per game the last two years which is less than Brown, St. Brown and Waddle. Waddle is probably the high end comp for him and my guess would be that the 49ers see that as a poor contract for Miami. That said the salary difference is not too small and I think anything between $27.5M and $28.5M a year would be a fair offer. Below that is necessarily insulting but probably not giving him enough credit. Moving above that level would either be a bad contract for the team signing him or would require doing the same fake money years others have to bloat the annual value.
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by miked1978:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by miked1978:
Also something to consider is state taxes. If looking at it correctly PA only gets taxed 3% on income compared to 13% in CA ???
When your talking 26 mill from SF vs 28 mill from Pitt its a lot more than that 2 million due to taxes.
Players also get taxed based on where they play that week, not where their home team is (unless it's a home game).
Interesting i didnt know that
49ers defensive end Arik Armstead shares a game check.
— Darren Rovell (@darrenrovell) November 3, 2023
He makes $393,055 a game.
49.3% comes out in taxes. pic.twitter.com/y3X7MBTpEU
this isn't a great example cause it doesn't necessarily highlight an away game but under state, you can see the other state line items.
think of it like an artist being based out of Cali but has a concert in New York - you earned that income in New York. So you're required to pay taxes.
when I travel for work, like Cali, if I'm there for a week or so - I have to file income taxes for Cali that week. It's annoying
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by miked1978:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by mitpdub:
The league needs to work with the Feds and states and just say all players get their checks from NY (nfl hq) and they pay reciprocal taxes from there. If some states are hard up for players tax money then they can get up to the NY tax collected.
In any event I will gladly pay more taxes to live in CA than Pittsburgh because of my fair weather and food tendencies.
Agree, you definitely pay a good weather tax, by living in California.
Not me. Your asking the player to forfeit a few million from their contract bc the weather? especially when most of these players spend their offseasons away from the state they play in?
I think California has about 130+ billionairs in the state. But most of their taxes are deffered or avoided because of being owners of their respective businesses. (The York Family being one of them) That's the major difference between an owner of a business and an employee - pretax vs post tax expenses.
As for Aiyuk, he's an employee. The government gets the bite of his income first before he does, thats an unfortunate truth for him and most employees.
Mark Schlereth was asked if he sees the 49ers and Brandon Aiyuk being able to come to an agreement:
— Coach Yac 🗣 (@Coach_Yac) August 9, 2024
"I can see either or… One of the things I always say to young players or players in general: 'Your agent works for you. Because every agent ultimately wants to set a record.… pic.twitter.com/iOSHtTVvts
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by miked1978:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by miked1978:
Also something to consider is state taxes. If looking at it correctly PA only gets taxed 3% on income compared to 13% in CA ???
When your talking 26 mill from SF vs 28 mill from Pitt its a lot more than that 2 million due to taxes.
Players also get taxed based on where they play that week, not where their home team is (unless it's a home game).
Interesting i didnt know that
49ers defensive end Arik Armstead shares a game check.
— Darren Rovell (@darrenrovell) November 3, 2023
He makes $393,055 a game.
49.3% comes out in taxes. pic.twitter.com/y3X7MBTpEU
this isn't a great example cause it doesn't necessarily highlight an away game but under state, you can see the other state line items.
think of it like an artist being based out of Cali but has a concert in New York - you earned that income in New York. So you're required to pay taxes.
when I travel for work, like Cali, if I'm there for a week or so - I have to file income taxes for Cali that week. It's annoying
49.3% of his year was working for the government. You'd think Arik would lead a tax revolt somewhere.
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by miked1978:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by miked1978:
Also something to consider is state taxes. If looking at it correctly PA only gets taxed 3% on income compared to 13% in CA ???
When your talking 26 mill from SF vs 28 mill from Pitt its a lot more than that 2 million due to taxes.
Players also get taxed based on where they play that week, not where their home team is (unless it's a home game).
Interesting i didnt know that
49ers defensive end Arik Armstead shares a game check.
— Darren Rovell (@darrenrovell) November 3, 2023
He makes $393,055 a game.
49.3% comes out in taxes. pic.twitter.com/y3X7MBTpEU
this isn't a great example cause it doesn't necessarily highlight an away game but under state, you can see the other state line items.
think of it like an artist being based out of Cali but has a concert in New York - you earned that income in New York. So you're required to pay taxes.
when I travel for work, like Cali, if I'm there for a week or so - I have to file income taxes for Cali that week. It's annoying
49.3% of his year was working for the government. You'd think Arik would lead a tax revolt somewhere.
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by miked1978:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by miked1978:
Also something to consider is state taxes. If looking at it correctly PA only gets taxed 3% on income compared to 13% in CA ???
When your talking 26 mill from SF vs 28 mill from Pitt its a lot more than that 2 million due to taxes.
Players also get taxed based on where they play that week, not where their home team is (unless it's a home game).
Interesting i didnt know that
49ers defensive end Arik Armstead shares a game check.
— Darren Rovell (@darrenrovell) November 3, 2023
He makes $393,055 a game.
49.3% comes out in taxes. pic.twitter.com/y3X7MBTpEU
this isn't a great example cause it doesn't necessarily highlight an away game but under state, you can see the other state line items.
think of it like an artist being based out of Cali but has a concert in New York - you earned that income in New York. So you're required to pay taxes.
when I travel for work, like Cali, if I'm there for a week or so - I have to file income taxes for Cali that week. It's annoying
49.3% of his year was working for the government. You'd think Arik would lead a tax revolt somewhere.
Originally posted by NYniner85:
I don't make anything remotely close to AA and the taxes in f**king NY are pretty brutal as well…I say start a revolution!
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by miked1978:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by miked1978:
Also something to consider is state taxes. If looking at it correctly PA only gets taxed 3% on income compared to 13% in CA ???
When your talking 26 mill from SF vs 28 mill from Pitt its a lot more than that 2 million due to taxes.
Players also get taxed based on where they play that week, not where their home team is (unless it's a home game).
Interesting i didnt know that
49ers defensive end Arik Armstead shares a game check.
— Darren Rovell (@darrenrovell) November 3, 2023
He makes $393,055 a game.
49.3% comes out in taxes. pic.twitter.com/y3X7MBTpEU
this isn't a great example cause it doesn't necessarily highlight an away game but under state, you can see the other state line items.
think of it like an artist being based out of Cali but has a concert in New York - you earned that income in New York. So you're required to pay taxes.
when I travel for work, like Cali, if I'm there for a week or so - I have to file income taxes for Cali that week. It's annoying
49.3% of his year was working for the government. You'd think Arik would lead a tax revolt somewhere.
A majority of those taxes are federal too. Which means you have to pay them no matter where you are. lol so the difference in taxes per state def matter but a majority of the taxes are federal.
Originally posted by glorydayz:
Does this change now that he plays in Florida or is that just the bracket he's in?
Originally posted by NYniner85:
And while state taxes are one thing. Other places like Texas make up for it with high ass property taxes.
I'm telling ya they get you one way or the other.
The #49ers made a series of roster moves, including signing P Pressley Harvin III and releasing TE Logan Thomas.
— Tom Pelissero (@TomPelissero) August 9, 2024
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by glorydayz:
Does this change now that he plays in Florida or is that just the bracket he's in?
Just the state tax part. So the part where it says $40.9k - that wouldn't happen in Florida since they don't have state income taxes. The federal part, where a majority of the taxes are, is the same no matter where you are.
Originally posted by NYniner85:
The #49ers made a series of roster moves, including signing P Pressley Harvin III and releasing TE Logan Thomas.
— Tom Pelissero (@TomPelissero) August 9, 2024